J'ai quelques côtes très mal amochées ( non j'étais pas en boisson hehehe ) et je me tord de douleur en même temps que j'écris ce post
Je ne suis pas capable de dormir il est 6hrs du mat. Avis à ceux qui veulent faire une belle action et venir faire du nettoyage de cages en fin de semaine pendant que je me "gèle" aux pillules! hehehehe
Revenons au but de mon post
Vu que j'ai rien d'autre à faire je me suis promener sur "Queensnake.com" dans les forums et je suis tombé sur une discussion très intéressante entre deux éleveurs de boas bien connus aux é-u. Ce qui m'a frappé le plus c'est un "reply" en anglais qui est presque une copie conforme à ce que je dis et écris depuis très longtemps sur les localités de boas ça vient de quelqu'un qui à voyagé en amérique du sud..... Voiçi l'extrait :
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This si coming from someone who has been there first hand on shipments coming in from both countries at once, and going through them. As well as first hand experience talking to exporters that have visited Miami. From both Suriname and Guyana.
A hypothesis of their words:
I notice that people think there is a big difference in guyanese and surinamese animals.
We dont have any respect towards that, if guyana is closed we truck them over to suriname and export them from there. and Vice versa.
There is no general difference. In guyana, the trappers do not take very good care of the animals as the suriname trappers do.
Depends on what species as well.The middle men stationed right at the borders buying from both countries and then selling to an exporter from which ever country offers him more for the stock.
Now where does someone send back an animal to guyana or the middle man because it "looks" different.
Never.
Now my 2 cents
I can guarantee that even the person with the strictest locale info has surinames labeled as pure guyanans, and guyanans labeled as pure surinames. Now if you export the animals and catch them yourselves and know which country your in, then you might have 100% pure of one type or another.
I will even guarantee that the locality god Herman Stoeckl(sp?) has animals mislabeled, but he might think that they are 100% pure.
I can guarantee it as it is a very widely accepted practice from over there to buy from middle men who travel between both countries with snakes more than likely from three countries.
Now I know alot of you will be mad I burst your bubbles but that is why I think that the whole locale thing in the extreme is a total waste of time and in my opinion, I know if buying suriname cbb babies or guyanan cbb babies, there is no 1005 way of knowing that the snakes didnt get caught on one side ofthe river, and sold to the higher payer on the other side of the river who was trying to fill a big order.
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"Quality isn't Quality without customer service so I guess I sell quality"
A hypothesis of their words:
I notice that people think there is a big difference in guyanese and surinamese animals.
We dont have any respect towards that, if guyana is closed we truck them over to suriname and export them from there. and Vice versa.
There is no general difference. In guyana, the trappers do not take very good care of the animals as the suriname trappers do.
Depends on what species as well.The middle men stationed right at the borders buying from both countries and then selling to an exporter from which ever country offers him more for the stock.
Now where does someone send back an animal to guyana or the middle man because it "looks" different.
Never.
Now my 2 cents
I can guarantee that even the person with the strictest locale info has surinames labeled as pure guyanans, and guyanans labeled as pure surinames. Now if you export the animals and catch them yourselves and know which country your in, then you might have 100% pure of one type or another.
I will even guarantee that the locality god Herman Stoeckl(sp?) has animals mislabeled, but he might think that they are 100% pure.
I can guarantee it as it is a very widely accepted practice from over there to buy from middle men who travel between both countries with snakes more than likely from three countries.
Now I know alot of you will be mad I burst your bubbles but that is why I think that the whole locale thing in the extreme is a total waste of time and in my opinion, I know if buying suriname cbb babies or guyanan cbb babies, there is no 1005 way of knowing that the snakes didnt get caught on one side ofthe river, and sold to the higher payer on the other side of the river who was trying to fill a big order.
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"Quality isn't Quality without customer service so I guess I sell quality"
Tout le "thread" est situé à :http://forums.kingsnake.com/forum.php?catid=66
C'est le "Thread" :
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# What is driving this manufactured contoversy over Suriname and Guyana boas? - RioBravoReptiles, Feb 17, 2005
Qui fait suite au "Thread":
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# Is there any difference at all between Suri's and Guyana's??????NP - savvgawd, Feb 16, 2005
À tous bonne lecture
J'invite tout le monde à lire les deux "threads"( ça vaut la peine de tout lire surtout les gens qui se posent des questions sur les localités )
Stav
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